Comments on: The Fifth Ecology: Los Angeles Beyond Desire

By: dave mortenson

dave mortenson — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:22:09 +0000

All I can say, is this Swedish crap makes me more than a little sick to my stomach. This is a brilliant plan for yuppies–in Portland. Of course, I hate yuppies in Portland, which is why I live in Boyle Heights, around normal, working people. Obviously, the money will never be there for this kind of travesty to be built–I hope–but dear Lord, why does every plan to “improve” Los Angeles = whitewashing and erasing its history and its industry, to say nothing of the people who live where this shit is imagined to go? Is Los Angeles perfect? No, but eliminating Los Angeles from Los Angeles to “improve” it is pretty horrifying. Maybe people should visit Disney World for this type of phony futurism. Or, hell, go with the flow, and move to Portland. Then you can ride a bike and have vegan soup brought to you by bike, and make crafts for the “Crafty Wonderland.” Whee! Good luck, I’ll even tell you where the “cool” bars are so you can meet people who just LOVE Portland and are so into sustainability and being “green” that they drive a hybrid car, with the most poisonous batteries ever manufactured. Oh my God! SOOO awesome.

And I don’t know why I even bother with Mr. “this blog is all about homelessness, etc,” but for fuck’s sake–there is a big difference between fixing things that are wrong with somewhere you love, and replacing all of it with shiny new things for shiny new people. I’ve been thru it twice already. Liking the traditional parts of Los Angeles the way they are does not in any way suggest being pro-homelessness or anything else. I mean, for Christ’s sake!

By: rolo

rolo — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:02:20 +0000

im sure that theres so much we can do to LA, but it would take decades to make all these people conscious and want to better their city. Sad to say, but a large percentage of Angelinos dont give a fuck about their city.

By: Random Hero

Random Hero — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:33:23 +0000

But more to the point, I was talking about the beautiful scenery found all over the city. Very postcard like, specially walking on the briges to East Los during sun set. Breath taking.

By: Random Hero

Random Hero — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:16:22 +0000

As I said, peoples attitudes.

By: alienation

alienation — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:00:28 +0000

BTW – I like a lot of the ideas in their program.

Some of it is like the 1970s all over again. Somewhere in my big pile of old crap is a bikeway proposal from around 1973. It reads like the dream of the bike coalition, combined with some ideas from this project.

Makes you kind of wonder why it doesn’t ever happen.

By: alienation

alienation — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:48:18 +0000

“post material”? Part of this dysfunctional urban zone includes, or used to include, a lot of necessary businesses like textile and food processing. Also, there are existing communities there. It’s not just industry.

You can’t have a society that eats only imported Swedish meatballs and exists in stuff made in China.

By: RobThomas

RobThomas — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:43:41 +0000

Yeh, this blog wants to see homelessness, gang violence, and school dropouts. That’s been their message from day one…