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	<title>Comments on: Eastside Gold Line Safety signs in local lingo</title>
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		<title>By: Randall BusTard</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-2/#comment-23210</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 08:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H.D.

The logo in the above visual parodies IS the correct logo. It is the ScalaSans typeface. I have satirized it thousands of times over the last few years, in print and on-line. 

As for the creative part of the signs, Al did just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H.D.</p>
<p>The logo in the above visual parodies IS the correct logo. It is the ScalaSans typeface. I have satirized it thousands of times over the last few years, in print and on-line. </p>
<p>As for the creative part of the signs, Al did just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: H.D.</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-2/#comment-23191</link>
		<dc:creator>H.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, we all know you want to poke fun at Metro but if you want to do it right, be a bit more creative ...

1) Photoshop in the wording to one of their actual signs;

2) Use Metro&#039;s correct logo.  They haven&#039;t used that one for years LOL!

Late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, we all know you want to poke fun at Metro but if you want to do it right, be a bit more creative &#8230;</p>
<p>1) Photoshop in the wording to one of their actual signs;</p>
<p>2) Use Metro&#8217;s correct logo.  They haven&#8217;t used that one for years LOL!</p>
<p>Late!</p>
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		<title>By: Randall BusTard</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-2/#comment-22691</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metro is working to undo your snarkiness, Al:

http://www.thebusbench.com/2009/12/hey-fool-metro-responds-to-to-online-signage-with-print-brochure.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metro is working to undo your snarkiness, Al:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thebusbench.com/2009/12/hey-fool-metro-responds-to-to-online-signage-with-print-brochure.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebusbench.com/2009/12/hey-fool-metro-responds-to-to-online-signage-with-print-brochure.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave mortenson</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-2/#comment-22194</link>
		<dc:creator>dave mortenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al, all I can say is, I think you just titled your auto-bio, if you ever write one. &quot;Wacha por el train, ese! The Al (Desmadre) Story.&quot; I nearly died laughing when my girlfriend told me about your signs, even funnier to see myself. Don&#039;t stop, man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al, all I can say is, I think you just titled your auto-bio, if you ever write one. &#8220;Wacha por el train, ese! The Al (Desmadre) Story.&#8221; I nearly died laughing when my girlfriend told me about your signs, even funnier to see myself. Don&#8217;t stop, man!</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-1/#comment-22184</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, fucken-a randall, good comments!

I went to a eco fair at Caltech about 9 months ago and Metro had a table, they were giving out metro tote bags,little foam trains, hats and other pretty nice duds. I have NEVER seen them hand out such nice things at any latino-catering events, merely small trikets, kind of ticked me off.  But that&#039;s just a tiny issue.

I also have been attending esgl meetings for phase 2.  The last one I went to, in Pico Rivera, I spoke to an older man with an east coast accent. As I walked up he was talking about &quot;big picture, long term, transp planning&quot;, so I asked him a few questions.  He was very happy talking to the old white ladies, but turned very rude and demeaning to me immediately. I was not being argumentative, i merely had questions and a few comments which he summarilly dismissed with half assed response that made little sense and answered nothing. He basically parrotted the history of the esgl coming to be (which I knew and was asking questions in the context of) and dismissed comments that other MTA employees had noted as being good ideas.  He finally got really ticked off at me when i didnt walk away from his rudeness, curtly answered my last question and turned away to talk to a woman who was not even waiting to talk to him. i even told him i wasnt finished and he ignored me.  mind you he was in front of a poster board there to answere questions that meeting patrons had to ask.

I have left over a half dozen comments forms for the esgl phase 2, each one begging for a response. Not one fucken response so far, just like the 7-8 comment sheets i left during the phase 1 meetings where i pointed out the issues now materializing with the new train.  I called metro and spoke to kim as well as a few other folks numerous times, and every one of them acted like arrogant assholes to me.  Often they would ask me what school i went to when i would tell them im trained in transp planning, and then after I answered would interrupt me to note they went to UCLA or whatnot, as if that somehow invalidated my comments in a very mean manner.

I know a lot of good MTA employees, like James rojas, Nate Baird and a few others. i also have went to school or met other MTA empoyees who were total incompetent a-holes, it seems like Metro hires a lot of those folks. you can see them leaving the HQ in their jettas daily. Why is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, fucken-a randall, good comments!</p>
<p>I went to a eco fair at Caltech about 9 months ago and Metro had a table, they were giving out metro tote bags,little foam trains, hats and other pretty nice duds. I have NEVER seen them hand out such nice things at any latino-catering events, merely small trikets, kind of ticked me off.  But that&#8217;s just a tiny issue.</p>
<p>I also have been attending esgl meetings for phase 2.  The last one I went to, in Pico Rivera, I spoke to an older man with an east coast accent. As I walked up he was talking about &#8220;big picture, long term, transp planning&#8221;, so I asked him a few questions.  He was very happy talking to the old white ladies, but turned very rude and demeaning to me immediately. I was not being argumentative, i merely had questions and a few comments which he summarilly dismissed with half assed response that made little sense and answered nothing. He basically parrotted the history of the esgl coming to be (which I knew and was asking questions in the context of) and dismissed comments that other MTA employees had noted as being good ideas.  He finally got really ticked off at me when i didnt walk away from his rudeness, curtly answered my last question and turned away to talk to a woman who was not even waiting to talk to him. i even told him i wasnt finished and he ignored me.  mind you he was in front of a poster board there to answere questions that meeting patrons had to ask.</p>
<p>I have left over a half dozen comments forms for the esgl phase 2, each one begging for a response. Not one fucken response so far, just like the 7-8 comment sheets i left during the phase 1 meetings where i pointed out the issues now materializing with the new train.  I called metro and spoke to kim as well as a few other folks numerous times, and every one of them acted like arrogant assholes to me.  Often they would ask me what school i went to when i would tell them im trained in transp planning, and then after I answered would interrupt me to note they went to UCLA or whatnot, as if that somehow invalidated my comments in a very mean manner.</p>
<p>I know a lot of good MTA employees, like James rojas, Nate Baird and a few others. i also have went to school or met other MTA empoyees who were total incompetent a-holes, it seems like Metro hires a lot of those folks. you can see them leaving the HQ in their jettas daily. Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Randall BusTard</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-1/#comment-22182</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will add one more comment. The word &quot;hoax&quot; used by Steve Hyman, whose own Metro-based blog does not allow comments, is just the kind of hyperbole I imagine Metro wants to avoid disseminating.

Steve, since the satiric signs were done by someone who signed his name, and were only put on a single blog, perhaps you might re-think using such outrageous terms as &quot;hoax.&quot; It only shows a distinct lack of professionalism. There was no attempt to deceive nor to defraud, but to protest. (If you rode the Gold Line regularly enough, you would be well aware of the great differences in the railroad and roadway/pedestrian crossings along the Gold Line, and understand why such satire is well-warranted.) Just as your posting the histrionic and wrong-headed accusatory term &quot;hoax&quot; on the blog that hosted the &quot;hoax&quot;—-even as the blog for which you primarily &quot;write&quot; will not allow comments of any kind—-presumably for the very behaviour you have exhibited—is likewise not irony but hypocrisy.

Here is hoping Metro will give you a basic dictionary for a your xmas bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will add one more comment. The word &#8220;hoax&#8221; used by Steve Hyman, whose own Metro-based blog does not allow comments, is just the kind of hyperbole I imagine Metro wants to avoid disseminating.</p>
<p>Steve, since the satiric signs were done by someone who signed his name, and were only put on a single blog, perhaps you might re-think using such outrageous terms as &#8220;hoax.&#8221; It only shows a distinct lack of professionalism. There was no attempt to deceive nor to defraud, but to protest. (If you rode the Gold Line regularly enough, you would be well aware of the great differences in the railroad and roadway/pedestrian crossings along the Gold Line, and understand why such satire is well-warranted.) Just as your posting the histrionic and wrong-headed accusatory term &#8220;hoax&#8221; on the blog that hosted the &#8220;hoax&#8221;—-even as the blog for which you primarily &#8220;write&#8221; will not allow comments of any kind—-presumably for the very behaviour you have exhibited—is likewise not irony but hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Here is hoping Metro will give you a basic dictionary for a your xmas bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: alienation</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-1/#comment-22174</link>
		<dc:creator>alienation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go BusTard!

First off, as a longtime occasional rider of the RTD, kudos to MTA for the huge improvements in the last 20 years.

However, we ain&#039;t nothing compared to NYC or even San Fran, and we have densities similar to them, so, there&#039;s no excuse. The city needs better. Clever signs don&#039;t cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go BusTard!</p>
<p>First off, as a longtime occasional rider of the RTD, kudos to MTA for the huge improvements in the last 20 years.</p>
<p>However, we ain&#8217;t nothing compared to NYC or even San Fran, and we have densities similar to them, so, there&#8217;s no excuse. The city needs better. Clever signs don&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall BusTard</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-gold-line-safety-signs-in-local-lingo/comment-page-1/#comment-22170</link>
		<dc:creator>Randall BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might imagine that the reason Metro is upset at such a wee bit of well-deserved satire is because Metro&#039;s reputation is such that such signs are not impossible. Were Metro half as concerned with building and maintaining a world-class metropolitan transit system as it is with its PR campaign, then Los Angeles might have a world-class public transit system.

Perhaps Fred and Steve might tell us why Tom Horne—Metro&#039;s head of customer service—is the weakest link in metro&#039;s chain, so lousy as to dissuade straphangers and bus riders from complaining. Maybe the Metro duo can tell us why metro is more concerned with fantastic &quot;Go Metro!&quot; video campaigns with Hollywood stars and massive sound stages instead of putting the same safety features on the MGLEE as it does for the Pasadena segment of the Gold Line. Or maybe there&#039;s an article to be done about the massive print campaign that promotes Metro despite the decades-old dearth of timetables on the busses and trains. or why not just tell us why Metro hired a former L.A. Times columnist and a transit blogger to parrot the PR from &quot;the source&quot; instead of fixing the problems that we all know exist but which Metro will not acknowledge?

It is obvious that Metro is more concerned with its reputation than with making its execs and PR mouthpieces put its boots on the ground (Fred notwithstanding, which is shameful in its own fashion) so as to understand how Metro does NOT work. Art Leahy is commendable in what he has done and is doing, but he is but one man—and a former bus driver who&#039;s father was in transit in Chicago, so he knows the ropes—against a vast sea of bureaucrats. Unfortunately, these clueless execs as well as PR people who brazenly proclaim their refusal to regularly ride the rails about which they write daily, are busy putting lipstick on a pig and calling it a thoroughbred horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might imagine that the reason Metro is upset at such a wee bit of well-deserved satire is because Metro&#8217;s reputation is such that such signs are not impossible. Were Metro half as concerned with building and maintaining a world-class metropolitan transit system as it is with its PR campaign, then Los Angeles might have a world-class public transit system.</p>
<p>Perhaps Fred and Steve might tell us why Tom Horne—Metro&#8217;s head of customer service—is the weakest link in metro&#8217;s chain, so lousy as to dissuade straphangers and bus riders from complaining. Maybe the Metro duo can tell us why metro is more concerned with fantastic &#8220;Go Metro!&#8221; video campaigns with Hollywood stars and massive sound stages instead of putting the same safety features on the MGLEE as it does for the Pasadena segment of the Gold Line. Or maybe there&#8217;s an article to be done about the massive print campaign that promotes Metro despite the decades-old dearth of timetables on the busses and trains. or why not just tell us why Metro hired a former L.A. Times columnist and a transit blogger to parrot the PR from &#8220;the source&#8221; instead of fixing the problems that we all know exist but which Metro will not acknowledge?</p>
<p>It is obvious that Metro is more concerned with its reputation than with making its execs and PR mouthpieces put its boots on the ground (Fred notwithstanding, which is shameful in its own fashion) so as to understand how Metro does NOT work. Art Leahy is commendable in what he has done and is doing, but he is but one man—and a former bus driver who&#8217;s father was in transit in Chicago, so he knows the ropes—against a vast sea of bureaucrats. Unfortunately, these clueless execs as well as PR people who brazenly proclaim their refusal to regularly ride the rails about which they write daily, are busy putting lipstick on a pig and calling it a thoroughbred horse.</p>
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		<title>By: T K Nagano</title>
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		<dc:creator>T K Nagano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Eastsiders will read these signs the real MTA signs...Communication.  09  OK  TK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Eastsiders will read these signs the real MTA signs&#8230;Communication.  09  OK  TK</p>
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		<title>By: emalay</title>
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		<dc:creator>emalay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it was funny. True, it matched the wit of The Onion at its satirical best. Brilliant that with a few signs it made fun of a number of issues. 

It&#039;s also stupid to laugh at, or in some cases berate those who don&#039;t get the joke. Especially after demanding, and in some cases berating, anyone who doesn&#039;t take the posts here seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was funny. True, it matched the wit of The Onion at its satirical best. Brilliant that with a few signs it made fun of a number of issues. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also stupid to laugh at, or in some cases berate those who don&#8217;t get the joke. Especially after demanding, and in some cases berating, anyone who doesn&#8217;t take the posts here seriously.</p>
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