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		<title>By: angelina</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-extension-now-open/comment-page-1/#comment-22239</link>
		<dc:creator>angelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in response to bhhapa&#039;s comment on lalo alcaraz:

funny you say that. i walked up to his tent in the early part of the afternoon. he asked me to buy one of his pieces while he was counting a thick wad of dollars. i presume it was from the sales of that day. no modesty whatsoever. not even for show. lalo turned me off. i still like his work though, but his personality is lacking. i guess i like my artists humble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in response to bhhapa&#8217;s comment on lalo alcaraz:</p>
<p>funny you say that. i walked up to his tent in the early part of the afternoon. he asked me to buy one of his pieces while he was counting a thick wad of dollars. i presume it was from the sales of that day. no modesty whatsoever. not even for show. lalo turned me off. i still like his work though, but his personality is lacking. i guess i like my artists humble.</p>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-extension-now-open/comment-page-1/#comment-22173</link>
		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put two videos of the Gold Line Eastside Extension up today. I&#039;m eager to hear what you guys think. 

First, some idiots at Little Tokyo Station: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6trcQp-gk

And here&#039;s Indiana Station. Notice the woman and the kid knew what to do. Not everybody is stupid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HBOP_76m3s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put two videos of the Gold Line Eastside Extension up today. I&#8217;m eager to hear what you guys think. </p>
<p>First, some idiots at Little Tokyo Station: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6trcQp-gk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj6trcQp-gk</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s Indiana Station. Notice the woman and the kid knew what to do. Not everybody is stupid. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HBOP_76m3s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HBOP_76m3s</a></p>
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		<title>By: XicanoSerg</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-extension-now-open/comment-page-1/#comment-22157</link>
		<dc:creator>XicanoSerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did a little research and find that the two places i was looking for( Eastside Luv and Primera Taza) are near  Mariachi plaza stop, not soto. I was riding the rails on Monday and Eastside Luv was closed that day. With it&#039;s mix of music/poetry and different types of wine,draft beer and dress code in place, East Side Luv sounds promising and like my type of hangout. Primera Taza looks kind of cramped from the pics i saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did a little research and find that the two places i was looking for( Eastside Luv and Primera Taza) are near  Mariachi plaza stop, not soto. I was riding the rails on Monday and Eastside Luv was closed that day. With it&#8217;s mix of music/poetry and different types of wine,draft beer and dress code in place, East Side Luv sounds promising and like my type of hangout. Primera Taza looks kind of cramped from the pics i saw.</p>
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		<title>By: XicanoSerg</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-extension-now-open/comment-page-1/#comment-22154</link>
		<dc:creator>XicanoSerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opinions on Goldline East Los Extension: Pico/Aliso Station: good for Menendez Learning Center students/Purgatory Pizza looks interesting, might stop for a slice, I saw a panederia there too./  Mariachi Plaza Station on a cold night is kind of spooky, i swear i felt my recently passed father Valerio&#039;s spirit watching over me here/i saw some bars open but they kinda gave that paisa vibe where a pocho like me would feel out of place/ the birria place was closed already.Stop has potential./Soto Street stop, the newsstand there is cool,there were a couple of dive bars nearby; i think bars there have a certain clientele that gives them enough money to survive on and there not going to do anything at all to capatalize on the new extension or to make a visitor feel welcomed, Raza, having these kind of places that cater to alcoholics and no one else leaves us very open to gentrification/ I read about some chicano type cafes nearby but i walked for awhile down first and turned back when i reached near state street, there&#039;s some kind of rehab place there that made me paranoid i was going to run into someone going against their program/the Benjamin Franklin Library is in need of a cleanup in the front, the dirtiness makes it uninviting/indiana st. station: has places to eat but would have preferred if the station stopped at Indiana and Soto not third but it&#039;s probably going to be used by Stevenson Middle School students/Maravilla station of course has King Taco but I would probably go to King Taco in the Heights, on Soto and Chavez or even Pasadena before going here/ The Ela Civic Center stop is great because you could chill by the lake or go to the Chicano Resource Center in the Library, your right near the Sherrif,s Station so it&#039;s suppose to be safe.The Atlantic Station has its share of places to eat and excellent Bus connections to other parts, Little tokoyo has senor fish and the brewery right off the stop, that&#039;s cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opinions on Goldline East Los Extension: Pico/Aliso Station: good for Menendez Learning Center students/Purgatory Pizza looks interesting, might stop for a slice, I saw a panederia there too./  Mariachi Plaza Station on a cold night is kind of spooky, i swear i felt my recently passed father Valerio&#8217;s spirit watching over me here/i saw some bars open but they kinda gave that paisa vibe where a pocho like me would feel out of place/ the birria place was closed already.Stop has potential./Soto Street stop, the newsstand there is cool,there were a couple of dive bars nearby; i think bars there have a certain clientele that gives them enough money to survive on and there not going to do anything at all to capatalize on the new extension or to make a visitor feel welcomed, Raza, having these kind of places that cater to alcoholics and no one else leaves us very open to gentrification/ I read about some chicano type cafes nearby but i walked for awhile down first and turned back when i reached near state street, there&#8217;s some kind of rehab place there that made me paranoid i was going to run into someone going against their program/the Benjamin Franklin Library is in need of a cleanup in the front, the dirtiness makes it uninviting/indiana st. station: has places to eat but would have preferred if the station stopped at Indiana and Soto not third but it&#8217;s probably going to be used by Stevenson Middle School students/Maravilla station of course has King Taco but I would probably go to King Taco in the Heights, on Soto and Chavez or even Pasadena before going here/ The Ela Civic Center stop is great because you could chill by the lake or go to the Chicano Resource Center in the Library, your right near the Sherrif,s Station so it&#8217;s suppose to be safe.The Atlantic Station has its share of places to eat and excellent Bus connections to other parts, Little tokoyo has senor fish and the brewery right off the stop, that&#8217;s cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 3rd/Indiana and 1st/Indiana could use some gates, because they are non-standard (you have to stop your car farther back).  Some drivers will not know to stop behind the line.

But I wouldn&#039;t call those intersections unsafe.  Trains move pretty slowly around those corners.  The school there (Ramona) is a high school, right?  Those &#039;kids&#039; are old enough to pay attention to slow-moving trains.

If the turns along Indiana Street are anything, I&#039;d call them inconvenient.  The delays are too long.  But not unsafe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 3rd/Indiana and 1st/Indiana could use some gates, because they are non-standard (you have to stop your car farther back).  Some drivers will not know to stop behind the line.</p>
<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t call those intersections unsafe.  Trains move pretty slowly around those corners.  The school there (Ramona) is a high school, right?  Those &#8216;kids&#8217; are old enough to pay attention to slow-moving trains.</p>
<p>If the turns along Indiana Street are anything, I&#8217;d call them inconvenient.  The delays are too long.  But not unsafe.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on Rob don&#039;t be such a hypocrit, you have said yourself that cars and smog are more dangerous than gangs.So cars and smog are also more dangerous than the rail system why not start there? Is it because it dosen&#039;t fit with your argument now?WHo is baiting and who is real here just looking to argue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Rob don&#8217;t be such a hypocrit, you have said yourself that cars and smog are more dangerous than gangs.So cars and smog are also more dangerous than the rail system why not start there? Is it because it dosen&#8217;t fit with your argument now?WHo is baiting and who is real here just looking to argue?</p>
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		<title>By: spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagreement = baiting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagreement = baiting?</p>
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		<title>By: RobThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s a no, Spokker.  Hope you had fun baiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s a no, Spokker.  Hope you had fun baiting.</p>
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		<title>By: spokker</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/11/eastside-extension-now-open/comment-page-1/#comment-22130</link>
		<dc:creator>spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;are you willing to at least admit that the particular part of the route we’re discussing (the picture above, the school), is dangerous?&quot;

I am familiar with the intersection depicted in the photograph and I do not think it is in any way, shape or form dangerous. 

&quot;Can you just admit that it’s possible a child might run out into that street and not see the train coming around the corner, without assuming the child to be abnormally stupid for his or her age, or a product of poor parenting?&quot;

The child may run out into the street and be hit by a train. They might be hit by a car. They might be hit by a bus or a motorcycle or even a cyclist in rare cases. Those are all realities regardless of parenting and regardless of stupidity. If the kid gets hit by a car and dies, and the driver stops and wasn&#039;t drinking, nothing happens except a dead kid. 

You really need to take care of yourself and your kids out there no matter what form of transportation we are talking about.

If we&#039;re going to improve safety, I think we should work on traffic calming before we work on light rail safety. That&#039;s where I think you get the biggest bang for your buck. Let&#039;s get some speed limits down. Let&#039;s get some drivers educated. Let&#039;s get drivers on mass transit instead. Let&#039;s close *some* streets to traffic and make them pedestrian and/or bicycle-only streets. I&#039;m not looking to get rid of cars completely, but I think cars having a monopoly on streets is kind of retarded. 

But listen, if you want my honest opinion, I think the current configuration of the Gold Line is safer than if you put up gates and more signage. Think about it. When Metro puts up gates and signs and all sorts of things in, they&#039;ll feel like they can operate the trains more quickly. Since people go around gates and jaywalk *anyway* they are definitely going to get hit because trains can&#039;t stop at higher speeds.

Right now trains go slow enough that they can stop. In fact, signals aren&#039;t even timed right so the trains have to stop anyway. The Gold Line is just as slow as a bus right now. After those safety features go in, watch for speeds to increase depending on what they ultimately install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;are you willing to at least admit that the particular part of the route we’re discussing (the picture above, the school), is dangerous?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am familiar with the intersection depicted in the photograph and I do not think it is in any way, shape or form dangerous. </p>
<p>&#8220;Can you just admit that it’s possible a child might run out into that street and not see the train coming around the corner, without assuming the child to be abnormally stupid for his or her age, or a product of poor parenting?&#8221;</p>
<p>The child may run out into the street and be hit by a train. They might be hit by a car. They might be hit by a bus or a motorcycle or even a cyclist in rare cases. Those are all realities regardless of parenting and regardless of stupidity. If the kid gets hit by a car and dies, and the driver stops and wasn&#8217;t drinking, nothing happens except a dead kid. </p>
<p>You really need to take care of yourself and your kids out there no matter what form of transportation we are talking about.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to improve safety, I think we should work on traffic calming before we work on light rail safety. That&#8217;s where I think you get the biggest bang for your buck. Let&#8217;s get some speed limits down. Let&#8217;s get some drivers educated. Let&#8217;s get drivers on mass transit instead. Let&#8217;s close *some* streets to traffic and make them pedestrian and/or bicycle-only streets. I&#8217;m not looking to get rid of cars completely, but I think cars having a monopoly on streets is kind of retarded. </p>
<p>But listen, if you want my honest opinion, I think the current configuration of the Gold Line is safer than if you put up gates and more signage. Think about it. When Metro puts up gates and signs and all sorts of things in, they&#8217;ll feel like they can operate the trains more quickly. Since people go around gates and jaywalk *anyway* they are definitely going to get hit because trains can&#8217;t stop at higher speeds.</p>
<p>Right now trains go slow enough that they can stop. In fact, signals aren&#8217;t even timed right so the trains have to stop anyway. The Gold Line is just as slow as a bus right now. After those safety features go in, watch for speeds to increase depending on what they ultimately install.</p>
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		<title>By: RobThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vince, A bag boy?  LOL.  What is that?  

Anyhow, Spokker, your sarcastic safety lectures aside, are you willing to at least admit that the particular part of the route we&#039;re discussing (the picture above, the school), is dangerous?   Can you do it without personally insulting potential victims?  Can you just admit that it&#039;s possible a child might run out into that street and not see the train coming around the corner, without assuming the child to be abnormally stupid for his or her age, or a product of poor parenting?   If you can just admit to that, Spokker, you have my utmost respect, and I&#039;ll assume all of your points made in this argument were for the better good of society, and not part of an agenda to downplay the message of organized efforts to make the train safer, or to bait such people into an argument for your own personal amusement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince, A bag boy?  LOL.  What is that?  </p>
<p>Anyhow, Spokker, your sarcastic safety lectures aside, are you willing to at least admit that the particular part of the route we&#8217;re discussing (the picture above, the school), is dangerous?   Can you do it without personally insulting potential victims?  Can you just admit that it&#8217;s possible a child might run out into that street and not see the train coming around the corner, without assuming the child to be abnormally stupid for his or her age, or a product of poor parenting?   If you can just admit to that, Spokker, you have my utmost respect, and I&#8217;ll assume all of your points made in this argument were for the better good of society, and not part of an agenda to downplay the message of organized efforts to make the train safer, or to bait such people into an argument for your own personal amusement.</p>
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