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	<title>Comments on: Highland Park in the NY Times</title>
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		<title>By: Baconheart</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/07/highland-park-in-the-ny-times/comment-page-3/#comment-20453</link>
		<dc:creator>Baconheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m glad to read that Highland Park is finally turning around and becoming a destination where people feel comfortable going to visit once again.  I was born in Los Angeles in the 1950s and grew up in Highland Park in 60s. It used to be a wonderful part of Los Angeles with nice homes and familes, but just like Lincoln Park and so many other areas it really went to hell. It became a place where you couldn&#039;t walk the streets at night, and harldy a wall, fence or store front that wasn&#039;t marked up with graffiti and other baloney.

Finally the place got so bad we up and moved to Alhambra, where at least at that time you didn&#039;t have those idiot gang bangers and Chicano politicians who had a million and one excuses for their bad behavior.

So if new people are moving in and cleaning that mess up like they did in Atwater and other areas of Los Angeles I say good!  It&#039;s about time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad to read that Highland Park is finally turning around and becoming a destination where people feel comfortable going to visit once again.  I was born in Los Angeles in the 1950s and grew up in Highland Park in 60s. It used to be a wonderful part of Los Angeles with nice homes and familes, but just like Lincoln Park and so many other areas it really went to hell. It became a place where you couldn&#8217;t walk the streets at night, and harldy a wall, fence or store front that wasn&#8217;t marked up with graffiti and other baloney.</p>
<p>Finally the place got so bad we up and moved to Alhambra, where at least at that time you didn&#8217;t have those idiot gang bangers and Chicano politicians who had a million and one excuses for their bad behavior.</p>
<p>So if new people are moving in and cleaning that mess up like they did in Atwater and other areas of Los Angeles I say good!  It&#8217;s about time.</p>
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		<title>By: vlad</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/07/highland-park-in-the-ny-times/comment-page-3/#comment-20401</link>
		<dc:creator>vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double agents

chicano middle class 
middle class 
&#039;the chicano&#039; artists
all other artists
&#039;progressive chicano&#039; politicians
politicians
progressives 
anarchist (some)
hmmm who else did i leave out? 
oh ya Democrats. 
We dont really have to worry about Republicans here...
or do we? 

http://zinelibrary.info/files/yuppy_takeover_11_17.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double agents</p>
<p>chicano middle class<br />
middle class<br />
&#8216;the chicano&#8217; artists<br />
all other artists<br />
&#8216;progressive chicano&#8217; politicians<br />
politicians<br />
progressives<br />
anarchist (some)<br />
hmmm who else did i leave out?<br />
oh ya Democrats.<br />
We dont really have to worry about Republicans here&#8230;<br />
or do we? </p>
<p><a href="http://zinelibrary.info/files/yuppy_takeover_11_17.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://zinelibrary.info/files/yuppy_takeover_11_17.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: JoeD</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/07/highland-park-in-the-ny-times/comment-page-3/#comment-20294</link>
		<dc:creator>JoeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your response to the NYT article.  I am a new resident to Highland Park. I recently moved into a house with my girlfriend who has lived here for three years.  

I first started coming to Highland Park to see bands at Mr. T&#039;s.  Later I started a band that played Mr. T&#039;s.  (We&#039;ve even played with 8-bit before.)  

Since moving here, I&#039;ve fallen in love with the staples of Highland Park. I&#039;m constantly trying to learn more about my new neighborhood.  

As a new resident who happens to be in a band (in some people&#039;s minds, that automatically makes you a hipster), I have a fear of being lumped in with the a-holes (as someone before dubbed them) who move here on daddy&#039;s dime.  

So let me just say, some of the newer residents aren&#039;t hipsters.  Some of us attend Historic Highland Neighborhood Councel meetings.  Some of us are full of civic price.  Some of us picture living here for a long long time among the same neighbors they have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your response to the NYT article.  I am a new resident to Highland Park. I recently moved into a house with my girlfriend who has lived here for three years.  </p>
<p>I first started coming to Highland Park to see bands at Mr. T&#8217;s.  Later I started a band that played Mr. T&#8217;s.  (We&#8217;ve even played with 8-bit before.)  </p>
<p>Since moving here, I&#8217;ve fallen in love with the staples of Highland Park. I&#8217;m constantly trying to learn more about my new neighborhood.  </p>
<p>As a new resident who happens to be in a band (in some people&#8217;s minds, that automatically makes you a hipster), I have a fear of being lumped in with the a-holes (as someone before dubbed them) who move here on daddy&#8217;s dime.  </p>
<p>So let me just say, some of the newer residents aren&#8217;t hipsters.  Some of us attend Historic Highland Neighborhood Councel meetings.  Some of us are full of civic price.  Some of us picture living here for a long long time among the same neighbors they have now.</p>
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		<title>By: art</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/07/highland-park-in-the-ny-times/comment-page-3/#comment-20287</link>
		<dc:creator>art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont like fighting with anyone, the attackishness and oneupmanship that has been prevalent here lately is lame and a big turnoff to me.

I enjoy good discussion, even with those who disagree with me, but Im too old and well adjusted for pissing contests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont like fighting with anyone, the attackishness and oneupmanship that has been prevalent here lately is lame and a big turnoff to me.</p>
<p>I enjoy good discussion, even with those who disagree with me, but Im too old and well adjusted for pissing contests.</p>
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		<title>By: ubrayj02</title>
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		<dc:creator>ubrayj02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Marcos El Malo July 16th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

If I&#039;d had the chance to write this article, I would have focused on the efforts, prior to the opening of these new businesses and retrofitting of older ones, by the LADOT to add a travel lane to York Blvd. by removing car parking.

The LADOT has a singular focus in LA that runs counter to the interests of local businesses in old fashioned walkable neighborhoods like Highland Park: they only care about car throughput and speed. Fast cars on Figueroa and York and  high volumes of cars on both street guarantee that few cars stop, few people care to walk and shop, and even fewer try to socialize and mingle in the commercial areas.

Yes, the streets are filled with locals walking to stores, but nowhere near what it could be if the monolithic focus on cars was shifter to encourage more retail foot traffic.

Anyway! Long story short: the LADOT&#039;s proposal to speed up York Blvd was shot down. Instead a coalition of businesses and residents got a section of York narrowed, added signals, and slowed down car traffic and boom: the York, Grassshopper, Cafe de Leche, etc. etc. etc. right in the middle of the calmest traffic area on the block.

Basic reporting with longtime residents would obviously reveal more, like the hard-fought liquor permit further down the street for what is now Juanita&#039;s Restaurant that the building owner/developer pulled a coalition of neighbors together for to show that they wanted commerce on their commercial corridors - that, to me, was a moment when the baby-boom &quot;I hate the city&quot; voters got their asses kicked by a new generation of pro-urban residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Marcos El Malo July 16th, 2009 at 11:39 pm</p>
<p>If I&#8217;d had the chance to write this article, I would have focused on the efforts, prior to the opening of these new businesses and retrofitting of older ones, by the LADOT to add a travel lane to York Blvd. by removing car parking.</p>
<p>The LADOT has a singular focus in LA that runs counter to the interests of local businesses in old fashioned walkable neighborhoods like Highland Park: they only care about car throughput and speed. Fast cars on Figueroa and York and  high volumes of cars on both street guarantee that few cars stop, few people care to walk and shop, and even fewer try to socialize and mingle in the commercial areas.</p>
<p>Yes, the streets are filled with locals walking to stores, but nowhere near what it could be if the monolithic focus on cars was shifter to encourage more retail foot traffic.</p>
<p>Anyway! Long story short: the LADOT&#8217;s proposal to speed up York Blvd was shot down. Instead a coalition of businesses and residents got a section of York narrowed, added signals, and slowed down car traffic and boom: the York, Grassshopper, Cafe de Leche, etc. etc. etc. right in the middle of the calmest traffic area on the block.</p>
<p>Basic reporting with longtime residents would obviously reveal more, like the hard-fought liquor permit further down the street for what is now Juanita&#8217;s Restaurant that the building owner/developer pulled a coalition of neighbors together for to show that they wanted commerce on their commercial corridors &#8211; that, to me, was a moment when the baby-boom &#8220;I hate the city&#8221; voters got their asses kicked by a new generation of pro-urban residents.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos El Malo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos El Malo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: &quot;Marcos, I’m going to take your advice and take the high road. Later.&quot; Noted with appreciation. No hard feelings? If there really are, I apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: &#8220;Marcos, I’m going to take your advice and take the high road. Later.&#8221; Noted with appreciation. No hard feelings? If there really are, I apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: RobThomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hector, I asked if any of the mods or authors, listed at the upper right, had any problem with my comments.  As soon as one of them concurs with you guys that I&#039;m this trouble maker you&#039;re painting me out to be, I&#039;m all ears.  It&#039;s that simple.  Until that happens, I&#039;m left to believe that you guys are either one or two trolls from another blog targeting me, using various pseudonyms, or just real drama queens.  The fact that at least two of you showed up here around the same time I did, from what I can see reviewing the blog&#039;s archives, leans toward the former.  But we&#039;ll let the moderators and regular authors here sort it out, assuming they even feel it&#039;s an issue.  I&#039;m respecting whatever they ask out of us.  And so far, I haven&#039;t seen where any of them agree with your guys&#039; opinions of me.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hector, I asked if any of the mods or authors, listed at the upper right, had any problem with my comments.  As soon as one of them concurs with you guys that I&#8217;m this trouble maker you&#8217;re painting me out to be, I&#8217;m all ears.  It&#8217;s that simple.  Until that happens, I&#8217;m left to believe that you guys are either one or two trolls from another blog targeting me, using various pseudonyms, or just real drama queens.  The fact that at least two of you showed up here around the same time I did, from what I can see reviewing the blog&#8217;s archives, leans toward the former.  But we&#8217;ll let the moderators and regular authors here sort it out, assuming they even feel it&#8217;s an issue.  I&#8217;m respecting whatever they ask out of us.  And so far, I haven&#8217;t seen where any of them agree with your guys&#8217; opinions of me.</p>
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		<title>By: hector</title>
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		<dc:creator>hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wish you would do that on every thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wish you would do that on every thread</p>
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		<title>By: RobThomas</title>
		<link>http://laeastside.com/2009/07/highland-park-in-the-ny-times/comment-page-3/#comment-20238</link>
		<dc:creator>RobThomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcos, I&#039;m going to take your advice and take the high road.  Later.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcos, I&#8217;m going to take your advice and take the high road.  Later.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcos El Malo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcos El Malo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob&#039;s upset that I cock blocked him. Sorry, Rob. I just don&#039;t think Simon&#039;s your type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob&#8217;s upset that I cock blocked him. Sorry, Rob. I just don&#8217;t think Simon&#8217;s your type.</p>
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